Jorge Mendes y su relación con el Valencia CF
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lFran
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¿Y sólo porque Mendes sea socio de un agente ese fichaje ya es suyo? ¿El fichaje de Villa fue de Tamargo o de Subirats? ¿El fichaje de Mata fue de Carboni o del padre?
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Al final el asunto sería quién fue a buscarlo, os i el fichaje era imposible y llegó Mendes, o Deco por boca de Mendes... o que pasó, aunque me da igual realmente, con que se aclare la situación de una vez ya va bien, aunque miedo me da como reaccionará algún medio y cierta parte de la afición si sigue en el club al mínimo fallo.
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lFran escribió:¿Y sólo porque Mendes sea socio de un agente ese fichaje ya es suyo? ¿El fichaje de Villa fue de Tamargo o de Subirats? ¿El fichaje de Mata fue de Carboni o del padre?
yo he dicho que participa. Si hasta te hice una lista de jugadores que no lleva Mendes y que se venden 'que son de Mendes' cuando sólo ha intermediado, como mucho. A mí en esa peli no me verás.
que eso es normal lo de intermediar. Salvans es un puto intermediario y era como San Juan Bautista del rufetismo. El padre de Mata intervino en el fichaje de Senderos (creo que era Senderos, pero si no fue en uno de esos de enero) y Quilón en mil más en época de Soler.
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No, si lo digo en general porque parece que ahora Mendes manda más que nadie y hace y deshace a su antojo y digo yo que no será eso. Yo he criticado la relación que tiene con el club actualmente porque no me mola que tu DD sea juez y parte en las operaciones, pero vamos, alguien de aquí tendrá que dar el OK a lo que traiga, fuesen Rufete o Salvo o sean Nuno, Layhoon o el propio Lim.The Penis attack escribió:
yo he dicho que participa. Si hasta te hice una lista de jugadores que no lleva Mendes y que se venden 'que son de Mendes' cuando sólo ha intermediado, como mucho. A mí en esa peli no me verás.
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Re: Mendes y el Valencia de su socio Peter Lim
Michel Platini leads the five most influential people in football
ESPN FC is counting down the top 50 most influential men and women in football, as compiled by our editors and writers from around the world.
25. Peter Lim - owner of Valencia
Peter Lim has a variety of business interests and is a major player in European football.
With an estimated worth of $2 billion, 62-year-old Singaporean businessman Lim has become a significant figure in European football. A failed bidder for Liverpool during their turmoil of 2010, he bought a majority share in Valencia in 2014, overseeing the revival of the La Liga club and restructuring their €320 million of debt into a more manageable amount. The comeback extended to the pitch: Valencia finished fourth in 2014-15.
Links with Manchester United saw Lim purchase 50 percent of Salford City, a club run by United's class of '92 -- Ryan Giggs, Paul Scholes, Nicky Butt and Neville brothers Gary and Phil, in September 2014. Lim, a confidant of super-agent Jorge Mendes, is also involved in third-party ownership, having bought the Spanish striker Rodrigo Moreno Machado and the Portuguese midfielder Andre Gomes via his company Meriton Capital before loaning them to (where else?) Valencia.
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5. Lionel Messi, Barcelona footballer
Lionel Messi has made himself one of the best players ever to grace the game.
He's a man of few words in public, but Messi's nonpareil play -- he has won the Ballon d'Or three times -- does enough talking to make him the true icon of this footballing age. Like his countryman Diego Maradona before him, Messi is redefining greatness in the form of goals, assists and playmaking skills you'd only dream of seeing in a video game.
Fittingly, the 28-year-old is also the face of "FIFA 15," the EA Sports franchise that, perhaps more than anything else these days, is a barometer of the pros who stir the passions of fans. Being on the cover is no small feat. It carries the prestige of its sister franchise, "Madden NFL," only without the pomp and circumstance.
At Barcelona, Messi's power borders on the absolute. His latest contract is reported to be worth $41.7 million per season, second in football only to Cristiano Ronaldo's. Relations with his club have occasionally been strained, particularly during his ongoing tax-evasion case, but there's no questioning Messi is too good to lose. Can you imagine his value if he were ever to go on the market?
It is Messi's prowess on the pitch that ultimately has the likes of LeBron James tweeting in admiration.
4. Karl-Heinz Rummenigge, Bayern chief executive, president of European Clubs Association
Bayern have reaped the rewards of having Karl-Heinz Rummenigge at the club.
Bayern Munich are one of the world's most profitable and powerful clubs, and they can thank a former player for much of their success. Rummenigge, now 59, was a dead-eye striker for the club for a decade, from 1974 to '84, but these days, his goals are all business.
Just the past season, under his watch as chief executive, Bayern announced a record turnover of €528.7 million. That's a 22 percent rise since their historic, treble-winning 2012-13 season. Sponsorship income rose 20 percent, with 1.3 million shirts sold last year, more than all 17 other Bundesliga clubs combined. Merchandise income increased by 27 percent to €105.2 million, and the Allianz Arena has been paid off 16 years ahead of schedule.
But Rummenigge's influence extends well beyond Bayern. He is president of the European Clubs Association, which represents 214 member clubs from the top of the game and is the only such body UEFA and FIFA recognise. The ECA has made sure funds from European Championships and World Cups flow back to clubs supplying players and is leading the fight for compensation to be paid for the rescheduling from summer to winter of the 2022 World Cup in Qatar. It is through initiatives such as these that Rummenigge is forging a new legacy.
3. Richard Scudamore, Premier League chief executive
The Premier League has much to thank Scudamore for.
Numbers don't lie. Scudamore, the king of the world's richest and most popular league, successfully negotiated a record £5.136 billion TV rights deal with Sky and BT for the 2016-19 seasons, a 70 percent rise from the previous £3 billion contract for seasons 2013-16. That staggering increase doesn't even factor in overseas rights deals, a testament to the man who has been chief executive of the organisation since 1999 and executive chairman since 2015.
This deal isn't just a case of the rich getting richer. The TV money is distributed relatively equal among eligible clubs (check out the Swiss Ramble for a closer look at how the money is redistributed), increasing Scudamore's popularity among clubs.
Fans, though, aren't sold on his approach. In the 55-year-old, they see the face of rampant commercialism who puts their needs a distant second. Despite the well-publicised TV deals, ticket prices continue to rise around the league's top clubs, thereby freezing out many supporters. It's a problem Scudamore has so far been reticent to address.
2. Jorge Mendes, Agent
Jorge Mendes has an impressive list of clients at his disposal, including Ronaldo.
Who has influence in today's game? Follow the money, and it usually leads you to Mendes.
Little spells out the agent's importance better than the fact that the 49-year-old has been directly involved in three of the five biggest transfers of all time, including Cristiano Ronaldo's then-world-record £80 million move from Manchester United to Real Madrid in 2009. In 2014 alone, Mendes oversaw transfers worth nearly £210 million for clients such as Angel Di Maria, Radamel Falcao, Diego Costa and Eliaquim Mangala.
Mendes can also count on James Rodriguez, Sergio Aguero and Thiago Silva as clients, and he secured Jose Mourinho's annual salary of nearly £13 million when the Portuguese returned to Chelsea in 2013.
More than anyone in the sport, Mendes is responsible for who ends up where, and beyond his clients, he has strong working relationships with the likes of Real Madrid, Manchester United and Chelsea, as well as Atletico Madrid and Porto, which perhaps points to the true depth of his influence. His Gestifute company has received substantial fees for "intermediation service costs." Exact figures are hard to come by, though Porto disclosed a £3.6 million fee for the sale of James Rodriguez to Monaco in 2013.
1. Michel Platini, UEFA president
Without Blatter in charge of FIFA, UEFA chief Platini holds all the cards.
In a world that will soon be without Sepp Blatter at the helm of FIFA, Platini is the game's biggest power player.
He took the helm at UEFA in 2007 and has been steadily building a legacy. Acting as a reformer, he introduced financial fair play (FFP) to control clubs' spending, reconfigured the Champions League so champions from lesser nations had a better chance to qualify, presided over the metamorphosis of the UEFA Cup into the Europa League and expanded the European Championship from 16 to 24 teams -- the new format goes into effect for the 2016 edition.
The moves have made the 60-year-old Platini popular among his constituent voters and leading clubs protected by the financial regulations he helped usher in. However, he remains a controversial figure if for no other reason than that he cast his vote, along with 13 FIFA Executive Committee members, for Qatar to host the 2022 World Cup.
Will Platini run for the FIFA presidency? So far he has demurred, but Blatter's resignation in May could have him considering a clear path to the top job. Regardless of whether he stands, UEFA is set for a key role in the imminent intercontinental battle for FIFA's future. Platini, who openly talked of backing Prince Ali in the 2015 race, will be a central figure in shaping our sport.
http://www.espnfc.com/blog/espn-fc-unit ... nfluential
ESPN FC is counting down the top 50 most influential men and women in football, as compiled by our editors and writers from around the world.
25. Peter Lim - owner of Valencia
Peter Lim has a variety of business interests and is a major player in European football.
With an estimated worth of $2 billion, 62-year-old Singaporean businessman Lim has become a significant figure in European football. A failed bidder for Liverpool during their turmoil of 2010, he bought a majority share in Valencia in 2014, overseeing the revival of the La Liga club and restructuring their €320 million of debt into a more manageable amount. The comeback extended to the pitch: Valencia finished fourth in 2014-15.
Links with Manchester United saw Lim purchase 50 percent of Salford City, a club run by United's class of '92 -- Ryan Giggs, Paul Scholes, Nicky Butt and Neville brothers Gary and Phil, in September 2014. Lim, a confidant of super-agent Jorge Mendes, is also involved in third-party ownership, having bought the Spanish striker Rodrigo Moreno Machado and the Portuguese midfielder Andre Gomes via his company Meriton Capital before loaning them to (where else?) Valencia.
...
5. Lionel Messi, Barcelona footballer
Lionel Messi has made himself one of the best players ever to grace the game.
He's a man of few words in public, but Messi's nonpareil play -- he has won the Ballon d'Or three times -- does enough talking to make him the true icon of this footballing age. Like his countryman Diego Maradona before him, Messi is redefining greatness in the form of goals, assists and playmaking skills you'd only dream of seeing in a video game.
Fittingly, the 28-year-old is also the face of "FIFA 15," the EA Sports franchise that, perhaps more than anything else these days, is a barometer of the pros who stir the passions of fans. Being on the cover is no small feat. It carries the prestige of its sister franchise, "Madden NFL," only without the pomp and circumstance.
At Barcelona, Messi's power borders on the absolute. His latest contract is reported to be worth $41.7 million per season, second in football only to Cristiano Ronaldo's. Relations with his club have occasionally been strained, particularly during his ongoing tax-evasion case, but there's no questioning Messi is too good to lose. Can you imagine his value if he were ever to go on the market?
It is Messi's prowess on the pitch that ultimately has the likes of LeBron James tweeting in admiration.
4. Karl-Heinz Rummenigge, Bayern chief executive, president of European Clubs Association
Bayern have reaped the rewards of having Karl-Heinz Rummenigge at the club.
Bayern Munich are one of the world's most profitable and powerful clubs, and they can thank a former player for much of their success. Rummenigge, now 59, was a dead-eye striker for the club for a decade, from 1974 to '84, but these days, his goals are all business.
Just the past season, under his watch as chief executive, Bayern announced a record turnover of €528.7 million. That's a 22 percent rise since their historic, treble-winning 2012-13 season. Sponsorship income rose 20 percent, with 1.3 million shirts sold last year, more than all 17 other Bundesliga clubs combined. Merchandise income increased by 27 percent to €105.2 million, and the Allianz Arena has been paid off 16 years ahead of schedule.
But Rummenigge's influence extends well beyond Bayern. He is president of the European Clubs Association, which represents 214 member clubs from the top of the game and is the only such body UEFA and FIFA recognise. The ECA has made sure funds from European Championships and World Cups flow back to clubs supplying players and is leading the fight for compensation to be paid for the rescheduling from summer to winter of the 2022 World Cup in Qatar. It is through initiatives such as these that Rummenigge is forging a new legacy.
3. Richard Scudamore, Premier League chief executive
The Premier League has much to thank Scudamore for.
Numbers don't lie. Scudamore, the king of the world's richest and most popular league, successfully negotiated a record £5.136 billion TV rights deal with Sky and BT for the 2016-19 seasons, a 70 percent rise from the previous £3 billion contract for seasons 2013-16. That staggering increase doesn't even factor in overseas rights deals, a testament to the man who has been chief executive of the organisation since 1999 and executive chairman since 2015.
This deal isn't just a case of the rich getting richer. The TV money is distributed relatively equal among eligible clubs (check out the Swiss Ramble for a closer look at how the money is redistributed), increasing Scudamore's popularity among clubs.
Fans, though, aren't sold on his approach. In the 55-year-old, they see the face of rampant commercialism who puts their needs a distant second. Despite the well-publicised TV deals, ticket prices continue to rise around the league's top clubs, thereby freezing out many supporters. It's a problem Scudamore has so far been reticent to address.
2. Jorge Mendes, Agent
Jorge Mendes has an impressive list of clients at his disposal, including Ronaldo.
Who has influence in today's game? Follow the money, and it usually leads you to Mendes.
Little spells out the agent's importance better than the fact that the 49-year-old has been directly involved in three of the five biggest transfers of all time, including Cristiano Ronaldo's then-world-record £80 million move from Manchester United to Real Madrid in 2009. In 2014 alone, Mendes oversaw transfers worth nearly £210 million for clients such as Angel Di Maria, Radamel Falcao, Diego Costa and Eliaquim Mangala.
Mendes can also count on James Rodriguez, Sergio Aguero and Thiago Silva as clients, and he secured Jose Mourinho's annual salary of nearly £13 million when the Portuguese returned to Chelsea in 2013.
More than anyone in the sport, Mendes is responsible for who ends up where, and beyond his clients, he has strong working relationships with the likes of Real Madrid, Manchester United and Chelsea, as well as Atletico Madrid and Porto, which perhaps points to the true depth of his influence. His Gestifute company has received substantial fees for "intermediation service costs." Exact figures are hard to come by, though Porto disclosed a £3.6 million fee for the sale of James Rodriguez to Monaco in 2013.
1. Michel Platini, UEFA president
Without Blatter in charge of FIFA, UEFA chief Platini holds all the cards.
In a world that will soon be without Sepp Blatter at the helm of FIFA, Platini is the game's biggest power player.
He took the helm at UEFA in 2007 and has been steadily building a legacy. Acting as a reformer, he introduced financial fair play (FFP) to control clubs' spending, reconfigured the Champions League so champions from lesser nations had a better chance to qualify, presided over the metamorphosis of the UEFA Cup into the Europa League and expanded the European Championship from 16 to 24 teams -- the new format goes into effect for the 2016 edition.
The moves have made the 60-year-old Platini popular among his constituent voters and leading clubs protected by the financial regulations he helped usher in. However, he remains a controversial figure if for no other reason than that he cast his vote, along with 13 FIFA Executive Committee members, for Qatar to host the 2022 World Cup.
Will Platini run for the FIFA presidency? So far he has demurred, but Blatter's resignation in May could have him considering a clear path to the top job. Regardless of whether he stands, UEFA is set for a key role in the imminent intercontinental battle for FIFA's future. Platini, who openly talked of backing Prince Ali in the 2015 race, will be a central figure in shaping our sport.
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Entrevista a Otamendi de principios de la temporada pasada:
-El fichaje de Otamendi se cierra el pasado mes de enero cuando el Valencia está en el momento más delicado de los últimos años. ¿Cómo lograron convencerte?
-El primer contacto lo tuve con Roberto Fabián Ayala. Me llamó en noviembre y me transmitió en varias ocasiones el interés en contar conmigo. Eso fue un factor determinante en mi decisión. Tenía muchas ganas de probar otra liga más competitiva. Quería jugar en España y no dudé demasiado en aceptar la oferta del Valencia.
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guilly
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Yo tenía entendido lo que ha puesto Eugeni, lo único que he leído de Mendes es que estaba actuando de intermediario para la salida del Valencia.
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franvinya
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La versión que dió el representante de Otamendi en la entrevista con Morata es totalmente diferente, prácticamente que él ni conocía a Rufete.guilly escribió:Yo tenía entendido lo que ha puesto Eugeni, lo único que he leído de Mendes es que estaba actuando de intermediario para la salida del Valencia.
Si bien las informaciones del contacto con el jugador y representante son contradictorias según la fuente interesada, Mendes tuvo ser más importante de lo que dicen los pro-Rufete en el fichaje de Otamendí, por lo menos en la negociación con el Oporto, porque ahí no creo que tuviera mucha influencia Rufete.
Última edición por franvinya el 27 Jul 2015 23:43, editado 1 vez en total.
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lFran
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Vaya, veo que Otamendi se ha cambiado la sílaba tónica del apellido. ¿Habrá sido mandato de Mendes, que todo lo ve, todo lo oye, todo lo puede?
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lFran escribió:Vaya, veo que Otamendi se ha cambiado la sílaba tónica del apellido. ¿Habrá sido mandato de Mendes, que todo lo ve, todo lo oye, todo lo puede?
Perdón, lo he afrancesado.-
sangreche
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En esta también ha timado a su socio?
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Mucho criticar el fichaje de Santo y no tenéis ni puta idea de la imagen global. Aquí lo que hay es una guerra soterrada entre las fuerzas del bien y las de la oscuridad.
Llegó el Espiritu Santo y se cargó al demonio rojo. Ahora han fichado a Santo. ¿No lo veis? Los próximos fichajes son evidentes: viene San José del Athletic y luego... Angel Di Maria.
Llegó el Espiritu Santo y se cargó al demonio rojo. Ahora han fichado a Santo. ¿No lo veis? Los próximos fichajes son evidentes: viene San José del Athletic y luego... Angel Di Maria.
Everybody knows that the boat is leaking
Everybody knows that the captain lied
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Everybody knows that the captain lied
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icon_relol magistral, solo falta keanu Reeves haciendo de Constantine.Mario Alberto escribió:Mucho criticar el fichaje de Santo y no tenéis ni puta idea de la imagen global. Aquí lo que hay es una guerra soterrada entre las fuerzas del bien y las de la oscuridad.
Llegó el Espiritu Santo y se cargó al demonio rojo. Ahora han fichado a Santo. ¿No lo veis? Los próximos fichajes son evidentes: viene San José del Athletic y luego... Angel Di Maria.
Nos podría encajar Ezequiel Lavezzi y Jesus Navas :?:
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Entonces Cristiano tiene todas las papeletas para venir.
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Esa será la nueva "Bomba" goof.cartmanvcf escribió:Entonces Cristiano tiene todas las papeletas para venir.
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lFran
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Sí, algún Cristiano Rolando que habrá por ahí en el juvenil del Guimaraes...
El tipejo este, tan buen intermediario que es, nos podría conseguir alguna rebaja en lo que fichamos. No te digo que nos regale a los jugadores, pero al menos no pagar 15 por Danilo o 10 por Aderlan, que oigo las risas desde Portugal.
El tipejo este, tan buen intermediario que es, nos podría conseguir alguna rebaja en lo que fichamos. No te digo que nos regale a los jugadores, pero al menos no pagar 15 por Danilo o 10 por Aderlan, que oigo las risas desde Portugal.
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Un tal Cristo del Tenerife está en agenda...
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Sanearon con sobreprecios al Benfica el año pasado y este al Braga con Danilo y Santos.Me joden los sobreprecios
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Y eso después de apretar a Bankia, que al fin y al cabo es un banco público.CHEJOV escribió:Sanearon con sobreprecios al Benfica el año pasado y este al Braga con Danilo y Santos.Me joden los sobreprecios
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http://www.plazadeportiva.com/ver/38819 ... neral.htmlUn grupo de accionistas solicitará a Meriton una relación del precio de fichajes y comisiones en la junta general
Un determinado grupo de accionistas del Valencia CF tienen previsto solicitarle al actual consejo de administración que preside la singapurense, Lay Hoon Chan, una relación detallada de los importes que ha pagado el Valencia CF este pasado verano por cada uno de los futbolistas que ha fichado, así como las cantidades que se han abonado en concepto de comisión por cada una de esas operaciones.
El Valencia CF ha firmado este pasado verano a Ryan, Cancelo, Santos, Abdennour, Danilo Barbosa, Bakkali y Santi Mina. Esos siete fichajes son los que ha cerrado este pasado mercado de fichajes el conjunto de Mestalla. Sin embargo, lo que genera cierta desconfianza entre este grupo de accionistas que lo único que solicitarán es que las cuentas sean transparentes es la posición del agente portugués Jorge Mendes.
El representante, amigo personal del máximo accionista, Peter Lim, ha estado presente en todas las operaciones del club este verano y entienden estos accionistas que debería ser público, al menos para el resto de accionistas las cantidades pagadas por el club y sus comisiones. Entienden que eso debe ser algo básico en el buen funcionamiento del club y no dudan de las buenas intenciones de Meriton pero quieren saber la vinculación de Mendes.
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